much broader problem which is the collapse of iraq. >> is the fight over ramadi the turning point? >> you notice isis isn't even trying to attack the shia areas of iraq. they know the shia will defend that zealously. they have stopped fighting the kurds though they may go back. they know kurds will fight. the whole issue is who will govern the sunni areas of iraq and that's the same tribes in syria. if the government of iraq can't win over sunnis to the extent they want to fight for this government, i think there's no amount of american airpower or frankly troops on the ground, 10,000 american troops on the ground aren't going to change that. >> fareed zakaria, tough questions. thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. >> fareed, thanks so much. >> you can watch fareed on sundays at 10:00 here on cnn.