jersey city after the towers came down trump's campaign is not backing down. they're dismissing any debate whether this was factual. what's your take? >> i have a serious take and a silly take. silly is trump has a new prompt coming up in dubai with luxury villas and five-star and classy and his name all over it. i'm pretty sure it will have a mosque, too. the funny thing is while trump is attacking arabs and making things up, he's making a ton of money off the region. it's a case of a man who can't put his money where his mouth is. on a certain situation, i think that lets trump off the hook and us off the hook. i think trump is not a side show. he's not a cartoonish figure. he's serious. >> not at all. >> and he's an extremist. i'm studied extremism in muslim communities. when i see happening on the far right is the same process.