dispatchers who make that call. is that a problem that this was going on? >> let's talk about how it's done in the u.s. and europe first of all. any time you push back from a gate both your captain and a licensed dispatcher have signed off on that flight. and each can veto whether that flight occurs based on weather or any number of issues which might be in play. but certainly weather is the big one and each of them would study the weather, come to their own conclusion as to the best routing, whether it's wise to do the flight in the first place. whether they have a licensed dispatcher system like that in that part of the world i honestly don't know. but i do know this. they left two hours early which already that's unusual for what we're used to here in this part of the world. were they trying to beat some weather? if they were up early before the weather office opened maybe they went and got the weather by other means. what they were talking about is literally a face-to-face