that was late smrvel and he was i'm comfortable where i am and i can do a lot from the private sector to have an impact on policy and the change in the direction in the country. now he's in a different place. did he give you more in his thinking? >> i think he's been analyzing what's been going on in the primary and he feels he can make a difference. he is a true leader. i've known the man almost 20 years now. he's donated over $6 billion to his philanthropy to make the world a better place. eegs taken on tobacco, he's taken on the nra. and he feels and we feel that he is the perfect person to lead the person through some challenging times. >> some of the campaigns are already reacting. a surrogate for bernie sanders' campaign today just saying on cnn that people don't need another billionaire running for political office. how do you contend with that in the democratic primary? >> so a couple of things.