may not get into the proposal. she acknowledged that there are still discussions ongoing on the health care issue. she said it is still possible, very possible in her words, that a deal could be reached but didn't commit to a time frame. she said those discussions are happening. they want to have a vote potentially by next week on both the separate infrastructure bill that has already passed the senate but is waiting action in the house, as well as this larger package. but there are so many details that need to be sorted out. i asked her about manchin and sinema and whether or not there was any agreement between those two members who have raised a number of concerns as negotiations are ongoing. she punted that issue to the white house saying that is up to the white house and the senate to decide. clearly, there's still a lot of discussions and moving parts. still positive tones right now, but does it amount to a law is the big question. >> exactly right. definitely giving a signal there is forward motion. john, manu's laying out a lot of