to understand why it is this is the second bite at an apple. we remember, all too well, the second impeachment hearing, it was similar but in terms of the target of a president, didn't have legislative status saying here is what you know, to prevent this from happening again. this is going to answer a question for me and the rest of the public, that question that follows that old adage of a republic if you can keep it, to show you what's at risk if this continues and how to lose a republic. >> are there republicans minds who potentially would be changed? >> i agree that most republicans minds won't be changed but i believe a certainly percentage of them whose minds could be changed if they watch this and i think what's important, the american public thinks they know what happened on january 6th, trump gave a speech, got out of hand, some people rioted on the hill and that was it. that's not the story. the story is, has many, many threads to it. it was a long, long effort to