>> everybody has a vice. >> yeah, like look -- >> advice or -- >> i don't know if it's -- i can't tell you how many times people will send notes or something like try a salad or how could you be a leader and you can't push yourself away from the dinner table? if it were that simple, i would have fixed it a long time ago. you know, so it's a much more complicated issue. in one way, some of the popularity i had over the years in the country with people is because they could -- there's a lot of people that have weight problems in this country and they look at me and they can relate to me in a different way than people who don't. >> you said it makes you tougher but i'm sitting here thinking it's not -- it's got to be really tough on yourself esteem. >> if -- for awhile it was. sure. it's a daily challenge. let me assure you and assure anybody out there who is listening who has a similar situation, it's a daily challenge. it doesn't go away.