to run for president, she will work hard, she will make her case and any predictions today about where that debate is two years from now won't have anything to do with what happens two years from now. >> what about sort of her wall street ties, the >> what about one person's allegations versus a lifetime of working for the middle class, a lifetime of fighting for the poor, a lifetime of helping support, create jobs, i can give you a list of accomplishments. anybody can throw out one line. but that's what a campaign does. >> well, she does. >> but the -- but the point of the campaign is that's a conversation. >> right. >> and voters will make decisions after a conversation, not a one-line stand. >> right. >> okay. we can't have this conversation about eric cantor's loss of his seat without actually talking about the guy who defeated him. listen to what david brat, an economist who defeated eric cantor last night said about the minimum wage today. >> should there be a minimum wage in your opinion?