the antidote to the aocs and the squad -- >> that's fine, that's fine, but to paint them as genocidal maniacs and say you want a better brand of politics, i'm fine with you having the pac. that's america. i'm fine with it being funded by a lot of venture capitalists. i don't know how it makes it a middle class machine. but you do whatever you want to do. but the idea of saying if you want a green new deal, if you want single payer health care, you're going to wind up killing people in the streets like happened with my family and people they knew in cambodia. i mean, that is toxic politics. you must know that. >> i just disagree with you on that. i was merely making the point of -- >> you set her face on fire. >> i was merely making the point -- i was merely making the point, chris, that it is -- do you want to know what incites violence? that's socialism. we've seen that -- >> i think ads like that incite violence. >> i disagree with you on that. >> well, let's do this, elizabeth. i get what point you're making. let's do this. let's see where the issues go. i understand where you are with