commanders he worked with trying to help him facilitate the process and it didn't work. the only way he got out was he was a commando. his unit fought its way to the kabul airport. he has been helping defend the airport and they extracted him that way. the idea that this is just happening now i don't buy it and even if it is let's get our head together, make a plan, prioritize, get the information out, and let's leverage all of these veterans groups that have communications with siv people to get them in the right place at the right time. >> let me get one suggestion from each of you because you've been studying this obviously and you are bright guys. let me start with you, colonel. the idea of what could they do that would make things better? >> if i can offer, too, chris, number one is get a system of information out that lets afghans know how to check their status whether they are close to the top and there is some hope and they should stay in place or because they just recently