they can spin. they can say they don't recollect. they can explain. documents don't. so keep in mind, for all the bluster about executive privilege, when it comes to bannon, committee chair congressman bennie thompson says, quote, the former president has not communicated any such assertion of privilege when it comes to his conversations with a man who at the time was the host of a podcast, not a close counselor as part of the government. meaning the only legal claim of privilege we've seen from trump is about the documents. so the party that he is targeting, the national archives, told him, quote, absent any intervening court order they plan on handing the records over. and they should. why? because in a statement from the white house, joe biden, president now, is standing by his decision to not assert privilege, because, quote, former president trump abused the office of the presidency and attempted to subvert a peaceful transfer of power. remember, everything about how this privilege and how it has been exercised suggests it is the sitting president with the power to assert executive privilege, period. sitting president.