you know, five kids by three different wives. everything that the republican party used to stand against. but he doesn't talk like a politician. you know, we make fun of him because of his limited vocabulary. to a lot of people that's how people talk. and he never backs down even when he's completely wrong and done something horrible. but in a world where everyone is always apologizing for everything, that comes off as refreshing. >> they also don't believe he's really guilty of anything, that they don't think about the rest of the political class anyway. >> maybe. i think -- oh, please -- i think they're not united to the idea he has done things nobody ever has done. i mean porn stars -- messing with porn stars when your wife is pregnant. no, i don't think bob dole did that. and i don't think they think anyone else did that either. i don't think they think anyone else made fun of handicapped