in arizona in the assembly. the de- -- november -- to get to the bottom of november 3rd and decertify biden electors in arizona, in wisconsin nrkts commonwealth of pennsylvania, and the great state of georgia. >> so i know all of this is enough to make your head spin. let's bring in an expert who monitors these threats and can help us make sense of the big picture here. the president of the brennan center, also the author of "the fight to vote." thank you, michael, so much for being with us tonight. i'm just hoping especially as we are here on the eve of the beginning of the debate of voting rights legislation in the senate which ultimately is expected to fail and we're watching all of these efforts to undermine elections and institutions, where would you say our democracy is? >> well, you have said it so well. this is a very big moment in american history. our democracy is under assault in ways it has not been in a long time. if ever.