>> it totally blew me apart. i'm used to fixing things, and this was unfixable. it was so stupid. >> once you start to understand the indictments, basically this is what they said. pretend we're in wyoming and we're standing in the middle of the prairie and let's assume for a moment that the fence is in the right place. you're standing on this side of the fence, the government says, right over there, on the other side of the fence, is this fabulous fossil. and they're basically saying that pete and neil and bob and whoever was out there would go step over the fence, wrongly, knowingly pick up the fossil, that they're not supposed to pick up, carry it back over the fence, put it in their car. when they drive from wyoming to south dakota, they then have conducted an illegal act, which is called interstate transportation of stolen property. they get back to the institute, they would make a phone call, send a fax, maybe, to japan and say, we found the thing that we were looking for. do you want to buy it?