you can be all right in this quarter section, but if you get off a little bit -- remember, this is before gps. if you get off a little bit to the wrong place, you might be dealing with a whole another set of regulations. >> the tribe claimed that because morris williams, being a member of the tribe, had not purchased a $100 permit to sell something, the fossil should be forfeited and therefore they own the fossil. and of course the government said that it was government property and that that was because of the trust land issue. >> the seizure and the subpoena were the brainchild of acting u.s. attorney kevin schieffer. >> he was a controversial figure, as a u.s. attorney, because he hadn't had a lot of experience practicing law. he had the ability to drive some people crazy. >> i do have a fair amount of litigation experience. i have not had courtroom