said the country is less revolutionary than it is interested in improvement. the average american doesn't think we have to tear down the system and remake it. is president obama wrong? >> no, he's right. but we have to do what the american people want. and the american people understand today that the current health care system is not only cruel, it is dysfunctional. >> it's -- >> that's the proble. the american people don't -- the american people do not support the idea of being forced into a public -- there's a lot of enthusiasm for medicare, opt-in for medicare option. there's not a lot of enthusiasm for forcing people and noting give them a choice. and bernie believes what he believes. and one of the reasons he's popular is that he doesn't change. he has been consistent in his principles over half a century or whatever in politics. and he says -- and he's