angry perhaps? well, my next guest, economist, professor, and "new york times" columnist paul krugman lays it out in "the times," calling what many are feeling, and that is the quiet rage of the responsible. and professor krugman joins me now. thank you, professor. i really appreciate what you wrote here. so let's talk about this. good evening to you. dr. fauci told anderson just a bit earlier here on cnn that if most people eligible to be vaccinated get the shot, the u.s. could have control over the virus entering into next spring. the rage of the responsible may be quiet now, but how long do you think people are going to be willing to have their lives and their children's lives disrupted, even endangered because of anti-vax and anti-maskers? >> well, i hope that people won't take it, you know, a minute longer. this is the most amazing -- i mean the self-indulgence of people who are deciding that they don't want to do this because -- they have various