what? right? >> absolutely. absolutely. i mean, evidence has to be gathered the correct way to preserve whatever hairs and fibers or dna or whatever trace evidence is on that piece of evidence, it has to be collected and it has -- properly, and it has to be stored properly in the proper container. to just pick it it up and drop it in a dry bag, unsupervised, on their own, it seems very bizarre to me. >> yeah. it is. listen, chris, our chris asked him about the, you know, maybe the parents, the possibilities of planting it. he said, you know, in nice terms, it's hogwash. you know, he didn't believe that it was. but it's just -- i think you're right. it's bizarre to see the family out there helping with the search and evidence. i don't know. this whole case is strange. chris, we'll see you soon. thank you so much. >> thanks. president biden in his hometown trying to sell his vision to build up the country. what survived, what's getting