there. i wonder if you got any idea, is she interested in a carve out of the voting rights, which by the way, she voted for. >> we have not gotten any indication that she's moving in that direction, but we continue to push. again, the scorecards have 13 senators that fell into this category. five senators changed their position since the release of the scorecard. we're going to continue to push. it is absolutely important that before the end of this year we protect the right of voters across the country. it is not a partisan issue, it is an issue of protecting the guaranteed rights under our constitution. >> you mentioned five senators and you mentioned john hickenlooper. shortly after the meeting, senator hickenlooper called to limit the use of the filibuster in order to protect voting rights. do you think we're going to see