you after iowa. so he kept his word. it is six years later but still after iowa. so he did come to the phone eventually. there have been a number of other times over the years we thought we were going to get a call from him and it didn't happen. this time it did. so we put the questions to him we had on our mind until we ran out of time. >> it was interesting listening to the interview. it was like all the logic and his answers were sort of circular with no evidence. he kept insisting states like arizona saw fraud even though an audit backed by his allies found no evidence of that as you pointed out. this is what he said when you asked him about members of his own party who aren't carrying water for the big lie. here it is. >> why did republican officials in arizona accept the results then? >> because they're rhinos and frankly a lot of people are questioning that. >> why is it that you think the vast majority of your allies in the united states senate are not standing behind you? we did have that statement by mike rounds. >> because mitch mcconnell is a