it was a megaphone that he had and he used it on the -- the highest level. and everybody needs to really focus on that, and focus on what is happening. yes, she is standing firm and of course she has to. that's her job. she is gonna do that. but we have seen this inaction and we have seen the result of this kind of language and rhetoric from the -- the former president when he was still president. and it's -- the -- the fact that there is an investigation going on of that, and it's being whitewashed while he is doing it again for a potential nother situation that he is gonna be in -- it's -- you just can't make it up. >> no. no. let's talk about these subpoenas, too. chairman bennie thompson telling cnn they are weighing carefully, um, but issuing subpoenas to members of the congress would be a significant escalation by the committee, don't you think? how would that go down on