they always tell us. but race was the motivating -- for killing unjustly, we need to have it documented and have two bites of the apple. one in the state level and another on the federal level. and so i think this was historic for wanda and marcus. it was historic for georgia. but most important, it was historic for america and our children. >> it's interesting because people, you know, like to hide their racism. they try to pretend it doesn't exist. ben, the jury was asked to ignore all of the text messages, right, all of the whatever the social media and everything. all of these racist messages. and then say oh, no. those don't count. that doesn't -- that doesn't work anymore in this, you know, social media age and this technological age. what message do you think this verdict sends? you said you think it's a precedent. what does this send moving