thrash ho threshold to qualify for future debates are getting more and more stringent. it's all about survival. >> this definition of the party, moderates versus progressives, manifested in health care, right? let's listen to joe biden on health care, and what he said. >> largest out-of-pocket payment you'll pay is $1,000. you can get into anyone who can't afford it gets automatically enrolled in the medicare-type option. you lose the job from your employer, you automatically can buy into this. no pre-existing condition can stop you from buying in. you get covered. >> and julian castro really trying to strike out on this, as well. here's his response. >> you require them to opt in. i would not require them to opt in. they would be enrolled. they wouldn't have to buy in. that's a big difference. barack obama's vision was not to leave 10 million people uncovered. he wanted every, single person