>> it's not that. >> are you going there? >> the next step is the nra -- you know what the next step is? hire security guards. you want to use money from the school budget, hire security guards on every single bus. the bus driver's job is to get them home safely and to school safely. >> right. >> now, the situation could have turned out differently. i think as dean and stephanie point out, this man was obviously conflicted, he was horribly afraid and trying to help this child. but he thought they do have beaten him to death. what if the child had been beaten to death? then what would you say? >> oh, gosh, i don't know that i would have changed my opinion one way or the other. listen, the police officer agrees with me. i think he should have stepped in. the police officer said the man should have done more. even the bus driver himself afterwards alluded to earlier, in subsequent interviews said, listen, i wish i would have done something. i wish i would have done something. he broke no letter of the law, as dean pointed out. he obviously did what he was told to do, which is call dispatch. but morally, broke laws all over the place. you see these children beating