very specific, right? they are pushing this idea. they are pushing this entire thing. >> right. and what ryan was just talking about that congressman jordan's office is saying well that's just one bit of the larger text of the larger document. the larger document in the broadest of -- of contexts, it doesn't change anything. he is still pushing the idea, fraudulently, that the election was stolen. and as ryan said, trying to get it in front of his very, very good friend, former congressional colleague, then the white house chief of staff. but the thing to keep in mind -- the fact that -- never mind that if he voted or not, he is still pushing that information. let's just be clear about that. >> right. >> but then, we don't know, erin, what else he was doing. we don't know the phone calls he was making. we don't know -- not just to the white house but was he involved in any of the preparation? were people talking to him? these are questions -- and not