make less than her counterpart. so she's borrowing more is probably making less. and so what we see when someone is in there for these, let's say that they're ready to buy a home. it becomes a really big challenge when they're looking to get a nice car is a bigger challenge because it looks looks like they are own and have a mortgage according to their student loan debt. >> yeah. and we know from the urban institute that more than half of blank households, even where there are two incomes, the black woman is the head of household financially. so what impact her pocket impacts the entire family and community? pretty sonya, lewis. >> thank you so much for digging a little deeper with us. >> and we'll be right back riyadh say's new album is breaking records mooney's