mignon, very lean. not so lean that it lacks flavor, but not fat that it leaves drippings on the plate. >> people would ask the question, "how did these two sons come from a cop like that?" >> you had martin and daphne at one level, and then you had frasier and niles at this sort of rarefied area. >> and it was daphne's job to sort of burst their pompous balloon. >> you think i'm pretentious? >> oh, you'd eat a worm if i gave it a french name. >> a lot of episodes focused on niles and frasier trying to get into this elite club or that elite club. >> i'm sorry, sir, you're not allowed through there. please remain in relaxation grotto. >> once they did get into that club, did it make them any happier? >> i am determined to see where they think i don't belong. >> niles and frasier always find out that there was one better, or you open another door and there's a better room. >> take me with you. >> healing warmth and light. it must be a magnificent