how much do we need to present to know that they saw the light red when you went through it. if this isn't going to end up in a conviction and perhaps removal, then the biggest thing they had was to say congress does take issue with people and they're undermining their power. >> we'll see how the break goes. i can't imagine how many turkey legs will fly through the room of families with different ideas. we'll take a quick break. we're awaiting the resumption of testimony. it's taking a little longer than we thought -- there's no drama -- members of congress were taking votes and they're now coming back. when we come back, as we're waiting for it, we'll reset what was going on before the break. (people talking) for every dollar you spend at a small business, an average of 67 cents stays local. shop small and watch it add up. small business saturday by american express