completely impartial. when you have the spouse of one of the justices writing this and putting these thoughts down in writing, i think it makes some people in the public at least wonder, well, these are private conversations but could that affect how a justice behaves? >> which is an important conversation right now in the sense that for years, people have said there should be a published set of ethics guidelines. the supreme court essentially runs its own business. members of congress and chief justice roberts talked about this. a member of congress saying, talk time is over. give us clear rules or we'll impose them on you. >> the chief justice has said, look, trust us on this. the guidelines don't apply to us, but trust us. but in the wake of this, a lot of questions for justice thomas. now his wife has long said she tries to distance her work from her husband's work. we also know publicly they've referred to one another as being best friends. so a lot of questions right here about whether he should have stepped aside or going forward should recuse himself from future 1/6 litigation.