explain to them and show them and they'll sometimes they see it, sometimes they don't, you know, but what they see is the actual separation. >> you're gone, you're not here you know, and that has an effect i understand that frank's family and employer, there were people around who were willing to testify on his behalf. >> why didn't they end up doing that? >> and that's, exactly the question that we always had, is why wouldn't the defense attorney go talk to those people and i worked on cases like this alleging what we call in the law, ineffective assistance of counsel and it's a very high standard. it's beyond malpractice for a court to find in this case, there is some of the strongest evidence i've ever seen, which is the family member got all the witnesses together told them the attorney that, hey, we got all the witnesses the people who know that frank was at work when this was allegedly are going down. they are here.
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