>> i think carly fiorina scored a number of points in the early debate at 5:00 p.m. among conservatives, a lot of the punditry class was impressed by her and her willingness to take on hillary clinton should hillary clinton become the democratic nominee and prove women's issues aren't just defined by the left. that women can be pro-life, pro-free market, less regulation, smaller government and more opportunity. so i would give her a lot of credit for that. as far as lindsey graham's comments about afghanistan, you may have thought that they were not artful but i'll give you an example, mavis leno, someone i talked to years ago, that i interviewed who was campaigning for more attention to the plight of women in afghanistan and she, too, made that contrast between, hey, women in the united states comparatively have it really well. other parts of the world, afghanistan in particular, we need to focus on and try to help liberate those women as well. >> mavis leno with a huge campaign for the last, i would say, 15 years minimum against