starting to grow here. to be clear, i don't think democracy is dead, i think it's far from it. i think the vast majority of americans do not want any part of this extremism, this division, this tribalism. but what usually happens in cases like this is there is an extreme minority that can cause tremendous disruption to a system. and in historical examples, it's extreme minorities that can actually take over and ruin democracy. so i would much rather be having this conversation now and getting out ahead of it than when it's too late. i don't think it's too late. i think we have an opportunity. >> i would say, and it's not just my experience seeing what happened in iraq, just being the son of immigrants, i know the stories and have heard the stories of what happened in latin america where there wasn't a transfer of power. it's frightening to think that almost happened here. i joined the marine corps to serve my country because i loved it so much. i gained the inheritance of democracy.