enforcements used in poor and minority communities, do you think people protesting have a legitimate beef? >> no, sir, not when it comes to violence. to be able to execute your first amendment right, we agree with that that's what my friend is saying. but to be violent such as we saw last night and the night before is totally unacceptable. what i would say to that community out there in berkeley is that there is a whole country that's acknowledging the pain of what's going on and something that is not right. but to get your page across, this is not the way to do it. what i would say to that community, chris, is that they need to stop and desist immediately any further violence. if you want to march, you want to protest, that's fine. but to put police officers at risk to do what you are doing, to damage those buildings, those businesses, your local economy, is just not acceptable. >> chief, the conflict is, obviously, nobody wants to