they were not affiliated with this in any way. they were really surprised to hear about these events, shocked. when they started to hear about them, they were worried for the safety of syed. they thought he might be getting attacked. they were completely shocked when they found out about it. so they're not denying anything. i'm just telling you, from an attorney's perspective in the cases i've had, the facts don't make sense. that's all i would say. >> that's the part i don't get. i know you're not here to plead the case for the people who did the killing, i hope. >> i'm frustrated. >> i think what david is trying to say -- >> the officers say they took fire from this suv, the people in the suv were him and her. that's kind of the end of the analysis of possibility. >> chris, as you know, as an attorney yourself, you do also understand we have to wait for everything to come in, not just bits and parts of the factual basis. >> give me a possibility. what could come in? >> i don't know what could come in. there's more information that we haven't received, you haven't received everything yet. nobody has. >> there's no question, investigators are open to the possibility that more may have