matter. for a joe biden it reinforces the sense among democratic voters that if they think that biden is the strongest, a lot of other democrats agree too. people like warren also ascending. and then for the candidates who continue to middle in the single digits are or dropping, namely harris, it is a major warning sign going into iowa when everyone is trying to retrench into that state. they have to convince voters that they have the staying power in this race. that's -- you know, polls are not everything, but in some sense they do signal a lot to voters, a very small portion of the democratic party is voting in these early states in iowa and new hampshire. but they're incredibly influential and they take that responsibility very seriously by looking at where they think that other democrats believe these candidates are and how strong they are going into a general election. >> sabrina, john and i have been interested in hearing what jill biden, joe biden's wife, the