the president doesn't like polls that don't go his way. but this is a fox news poll. i think that he is inclined to look at those. >> we should be clear, fox news polling has nothing to do with the ideological bend that we see in their primetime programming. >> the polling has always been found to be fair. the fact the fox news name on it, we shouldn't. what is more important than the democratic numbers performing against him is donald trump doesn't get above 40% in any matchup. that, if you are in trump campaign headquarters, that is a problem. like that is -- that is going to be tough to re-create that path to 270 electoral votes if a year from now he's also sitting at his number there at 40%. >> i will say the other thing is that joe biden, the margin joe biden enjoys over president trump in the head-to-head is very different than all the other candidates. bernie sanders is the closest there but double what elizabeth