people -- >> kaitlan, the whole point it has been precedented. susan collins and the dissenting justices last night said look at where our country has been for nearly 50 years to in just after 72 hours of thought essentially as justice kagan said to effectively reverse it is a major development. >> jeffrey, go ahead. >> well, no. it just -- i don't know if susan collins was deluting herself or being dill luted or simply lying or was lied to by brett k kavanaugh. i think everyone knew or most people knew at the time what she was saying was not likely to be vindicated and it now has been proven to be false. but, you know, this -- you know, i remember when i covered supreme court nominations and john mccain always used to say elections have consequences. and donald trump was elected and there were three vacancies