employers to vaccinate workers of any size, employee count. what the president should do is scrap this ill-conceived executive order, bring business groups together, bring labor groups together, and hash out a way we can increase vaccination rates in america with the power of persuasion. >> so, here's an example. delta airlines, this is maybe not just an example of incentivizing getting vaccines, but de-incentivizing not getting them, right. delta is having a $200 surcharge through insurance per month, which is a lot of money, you know, that's $2,400 in a year, for not getting vaccines. what about that? do you support that? >> yeah, i think businesses should have the ability to determine how they conduct those type of workplace situations. so if delta has an innovative way to handle this, other companies in texas have