here. >> the thing to note is the timing is critical as you point out. as of right now, the national archives is set to produce these documents without a court order. so if a court is going to act, they need to act quickly. watch for the judge that this case is in front of, judge tonya, a district court judge in d.c. and she does not play around. she'll move quickly. she'll ask the parties to come in right away, hold a hearing, ask for briefs from the justice department and trump's lawyers and she could rule before november 12th. we may see action on this pretty quickly. >> we got precedent with regard to not the insurrection, but the nixon tapes, questions of presidential privilege after being in office. this judge is significant. she's tough on the insurrectionists. this is a delay tactic by donald trump. there are precedents for ex-presidents not having executive privilege if the current president doesn't support it, which the biden administration doesn't, and --