know, they believe he had thrown down the toilet. what it could be, brianna, it could be anybody's guess. it would be post-its, notes he wrote to himself. we don't know. it does add another dimension to what we know about how he handled material in the white house. we have known for several years since my colleague andy carney broke the story that trump ripped up pieces of paper and they had to tape it up for archival. this is what he has done all his life in terms of ripping them up. this was something different. it was not, as i'm told, an isolated incident. . >> several times? several times, maggie? >> this is something -- they would periodically find this to be the case. you know, the exact number, john, i'm not certain of. but it was not just once. >> and his toilet? no mistaking whose toilet it was. >> it was in the pipes. it was in the pipes.