higher educations for example, we have an investment baker. we have a speech therapist, we have a retired wealth manager. i can go on and on with all these different people, but they have higher level of education's, but they also have jobs. for example, the speech therapist. we have that teacher as well. the physical therapists, they have to read people's reactions, read how people behave. so they're using that common sense in addition to that higher level of education to understand the more complex issues that the jury may here during the course of this case. but it's not just the jury that's important because you have the alternates and you'll have some of the same characteristics. but why are they important? well, they're not going to deliberate with the jury if it ultimately gets to that point, but you run the risk that a juror or jurors over the course of this trial will not want to be a part of that process ultimately, there may be an accident, maybe an emergency. there may be a health care issue, and those jurors might be removed, and in that time any one of these people, any one of them could be a part of