match of point counterpoint. >> it ought to be a shock to us as a nation and as people. it ought to lead to some sort of transformation. >> we need to look at letting the men with firearms to protect and survive. >> the president once again grieving with americans after four our mass shootings during his presidency. in fort hood texas and arizona and chicago and newtown. >> it's the change that we need and it's a change overwhelmingly supported by the majority of americans. >> we're going to have this discussion today. it's on other channels. when the camera goes off, nobody is going to do anything. >> and lapierre touched on how mental health records are not in the system as part as background checks in purchasing guns. the u.s. has not been dealing