health care exchanges go into effect at midnight. >> well, most of them are not going to be open, because there are problems, and this is a real issue, and harry reid is pushing this, because he thinks it is a political win in 2014, and quite honestly, it is a diversion with what is really going on with the act and the problems with the implementation. and to say otherwise is not true. >> i am not saying that there are not problems with obama care, but they don't want it tied with the federal budget. they want obama care dealt with in another way, and why not another way? >> well, the thing is that they won't even negotiate with us on anythi anything. do think think they would have this conversation another way? we ended up here because the president and harry reid threatened to shutdown the government if the sequester was not rolled back. they believe it is a good political win for them come 2014 and that is the objective.