different. but the you shouldn't just have a boycott today or tomorrow, it's to redistribute the pain long-term, so people actually get the outcomes they want. >> and what is that outcome right now, in the near-term? >> i think in the near-term, it's a doj investigation, it's a civil rights investigation, it's a structural analysis of what's going on if the departments. we want to find out what happened in this case, but we want to find out what's going on in chicago and we need concrete steps to solve this problem so the systemic issue there is resol resolved, things like body camera, and review boards, and quicker and stiffer penalties to officers that break the law. >> that phrase of, what is going on in chicago, hold on to that for one second. first, i want to ask about the idea of a federal investigation right now. what would it turn up at this point? because when this happened, when the video came out, so many people saying, this only shines a light on what we know has been