or movements, and at that point also, it's not believed they were even home so that was the first indication that there might be something forthcoming was last night at the press conference when we heard it, and so that's when we began the process of trying to move forward, and the first thing we heard about the actual charges was this morning, so, you know, it's a time line thing, but we're working forward. >> so you say that there was no indication that they were at home, when was the last time that you knew where the crumbleys were, that you had an idea of if they were at home or if not, where they were located? >> well, again, they hadn't been cooperating and there were no pending charges, so there was not at the early stages, any surveillance obviously on them because there was no indication charges against them that were going to be leveed, so, you know, their movements from that