but if you listened to the president earlier and he thanked a number of countris, it was russia, syria, turkey and iraq, and the syrian kurds. does that add salt to the wounds that the kurds have been feeling rather betrayed by the u.s. pullout of northern syria? >> i think right now, i've talked to the head of the u.s.-backed forces, right? the sdf was part of a partner source that the u.s. fought for the last half-decade with. this really is a momentous victory that was five years in the making with this partner force that started in 2014 in the town of kobani when isis had never had a single battlefield defeat. it was steaming across the region and just absolutely taking town after town. so i think this is a partnership, and one thing that isn't often captured is there is deep friendship between u.s. forces and the syrian democratic