sure, it's a separate -- in the same way that nobody else goes into court with secret service around them, we've never been through anything like this and he needs to understand the impact that his decisions, which led to these indictments, are going to have on our body politic, on the election coming up, on the debate and on the discussion of the issues. i talk to people in iowa. they're asking me about inflation. they're asking about what i'm going to do on border security and fentanyl, and that's what we've got 230 to focus on and what he's doing is a great distraction from the serious issues in our country. >> i suspect the issue of ukraine is going to come up during this debate and this past week i spoke with one of our opponents, vivek ramaswamy who is rising in the polls and asked him about his position that he would allow russian president vladimir putin to keep parts of ukraine that have been captured thus far. let's listen to that and get your reaction on the other side.