message. i think that saudi arabia is feeling let's put it this way insecure with the war in yaemen. it's not winning it. its forces in syria, the forces at back, are not doing well. saudi arabia is not doing well in iraq as well. it looks like it's surrounded. and it's worried about its shia minority. the shia with radio not marley active but are very worried about them. and also you have a problem, the de facto king in this country is a 30-year-old man, the second crowned appliance. he doesn't have much experience. he's running the economy, national security, defense and the rest of it, and i think clearly the saudis are making mistakes because shaikh nimr wasn't a violent man. it he was volved in terrorism, saudi arabia didn't make that case. that's the real problem. that's the reason there's this outrage across the middle east. >> general hertling, you have two countries with very big