have to remember back 20 years, the last time the country saw an impeachment proceeding. remember -- some of us remember, i covered the trial, the inquiry in the hour, the trial in the senate here. going forward, what does this look like, the next steps, how much testimony, how much public testimony in particular should people expect to see? >> well, i think we're moving into the public testimony aspect of it. the investigation has been done behind closed doors. they're prepared now, the democrats, to put forth the public aspect of it to begin informing the american people what the case really is. it's been trickling out here and there with released statements, some of them by leaks. some of them begin to get the full picture. and the house if there's an impeachment acts as the prosecutors. they refer to house managers and they'll be presenting the testimony much the way the government prosecutor would put it forward. so from the public standpoint, this is the moment where we'll begin to hear the actual raw