according to court documents, person one who "the washington post" identified as oath keeper founder steward rhodes allegedly began discussing plans to keep trump in the white house by force six days after the election. rhodes has not been charged but has been accused of giving direction before and during the insurrection. he denies those accusations. in an on line coverage call that day, he said, we're going defend the president, the duly elected president and we call on him to do what needs to be done to save our country. because if you don't, guys, you're going to be in a bloody, bloody civil war and a bloody -- you can call it an insurrection or a war or a fight. cnn law enforcement correspondent whitney wild joins us now. four more people have been indicted. bring the total number of oath keepers charged to 16. tell us about the new charges. >> there are, you know, so many